Warrior/Ranger? - Guild Wars Forums

CJM · Jun 16, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Hey everyone, I was wondering how a warrior/ranger would do as a proffesion combo. I've heard that it is a very bad idea to do, although I've heard that it's a very good combo to play as far as damage goes. I was hoping I could get some information about this combo from more experienced players, as well as other combos with a ranger.

If you think I should stick with that, then tell me why.
If you think I should change, tell me what proffesions to do and why.
(I would prefer a ranger somewhere in there)

Thanks

jasonrunion · Jun 16, 2005, 02:34 AM // 02:34

I think it is a great combo because if you have a ranger for 2nd u can use troll uguent. You will be unstoppable did i mention you can also have a pet

wgregory87 · Jun 16, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38

It's not the greatest combo. Rather than troll ungent, monks have way better healing spells. Pets are next to useless and arrow skills aren't very useful for a warrior sine 90% of the time he'll be right beside all the enemies. Every class combination is viable, I just think that there are better ones than this. W/Mo - can smite and heal. W/E - can AoE and use armor spells. W/Me - can own casters. W/N - Can raise minion, cast curses, do anything good.

CJM · Jun 16, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42

All right, makes sence, although I think I would prefer to have a ranger somewhere... So if a warrior/ranger isn't good, what would be the best proffesion to do with a ranger?

jasonrunion · Jun 16, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44

i would have to say either a ele/mon/or mes

wgregory87 · Jun 16, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44

If you want a ranger for the arrows, you best to be ranger as your primary. However something like N/R would be decent for ranger traps. Same with E/R or Me/R or even Mo/R. Just that Warrior and ranger are typically 2 attacking classes and the traps wouldnt really compliment bashing stuff close up being a warrior. However traps dont come til later in the game. Rangers generally don't have a good reputation of being useful, but you can always lean on your primary for the first big part of the game.

Forefall · Jun 16, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Warrior/Ranger is a very viable option. It can be devastating, especially with poison attack on a cyclone axe. And beastmastery works excellent with a warrior.

Most people on these forums don't know what they're talking about, save a few. Unfortunately, I'm probably one of the majority.

I'd say if you want a warrior/ranger do it. It truly is a very viable option, both for PvE and PvP.

ICURADik · Jun 16, 2005, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forefall

Warrior/Ranger is a very viable option. It can be devastating, especially with poison attack on a cyclone axe. And beastmastery works excellent with a warrior.

Most people on these forums don't know what they're talking about, save a few. Unfortunately, I'm probably one of the majority.

I'd say if you want a warrior/ranger do it. It truly is a very viable option, both for PvE and PvP.

Poison attack?

Drachton · Jun 16, 2005, 04:54 AM // 04:54

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Originally Posted by ICURADik

Poison attack?

He probably meant Apply Poison.

I haven't tried it yet, but I think a W/R build using Wilderness Survival could work very well. Troll Unguent is IMO far better than the Healing Signet, and it compares favorably to Healing Breeze, especially considering it's not a spell and thus costs little energy and can't be stripped. True, the W/Mo is more versatile in that a W/Mo can go healing in PvE and smiting in PvP, whereas a W/R would be better suited to PvE (of course, IMO).

wgregory87 · Jun 16, 2005, 05:02 AM // 05:02

The fact most of you are forgetting is that ANY class combination fares well in PvE. W/R would be much less usefull in PvP. Actually near useless compared to what your second class could provide.

Celdor Nailo · Jun 16, 2005, 01:28 PM // 13:28

I'm a W/R 13. I picked ranger as my second profession because I wanted to travel and fight with an animal companion. I don't use any of the ranger skills except for troll ungent. One problem with traveling with a pet is that you need to use one skill spot for animal companion and if you want to be able to heal your pet then you need to use a slot for animal something (forget what it's called).

Lymix · Jun 16, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27

I'm a lvl 20 W/R and have just recently started booting up Wilderness Survival skills. I agree with Drachton that Troll Unguent is a great way to keep health up for a tank. Apply Poison is also very effective for a damage dealing warrior, especially in conjunction with an attack like Hundred Blades, Cyclone Axe or Crude Swing which strikes multiple enemies.

Pets? Besides always seeming to get in my (and every one else's) way, in order for them to become effective you'll have to put a lot of attribute points into Beast Mastery, which to me seems like a mismanagement of attribute points for a Ranger secondary. Since the bulk of your attribute points will be tied up in Warrior skills, remaining points spent in Wilderness Survival are going to be of much more value than Beast Mastery IMO.

While a W/R combo may not be one of the best secondary choices it can be effective with some practice.

Algren Cole · Jun 16, 2005, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by wgregory87

It's not the greatest combo. Rather than troll ungent, monks have way better healing spells. Pets are next to useless and arrow skills aren't very useful for a warrior sine 90% of the time he'll be right beside all the enemies. Every class combination is viable, I just think that there are better ones than this. W/Mo - can smite and heal. W/E - can AoE and use armor spells. W/Me - can own casters. W/N - Can raise minion, cast curses, do anything good.

my pet does more damage than most of the people I party up with....

Acan Vishnu · Jun 16, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Another nice bonus for going w/r is that they have some pretty nice stances... Dryder's Defense, Serpents Quickness, Tiger's Fury, etc... Can't really list the Expertise ones, unless you go R/W, which is also a viable combo.

I'd probably go one or the other though, wouldn't want to diversify too much... Strength, Weapon Skill, then a Ranger line.. Probably wouldn't want to stretch it too much farther, although for PvE you'd probably be fine going with four attribute lines, might be too much for a PvP build though.. might just keep Strength a little lower, as you might not get as much benefit from it.

One thing I've really wanted to try is Ferocious Strike melee build, nice damage, gain a bit of energy and even get the adrenaline from the hit. Really tempted to play a beastmaster like that

Khift · Jun 16, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Tiger's Fury alone seems like a good enough reason to put points into Beast Mastery. With a Zealous sword hilt or axe haft (I wouldn't think Hammer would work quite as well) and 10 points in Beast Mastery (Very easy to get -- 10 in Strength/Tactics, 11 in Swords/Axe, and 10 in a third skill. Boost Strength/Tactics up to 12 with a helmet and a minor rune and Swords/Axe up to 12 with a minor rune) you could keep Tiger's Fury up almost indefinitely. Then, throw in some adrenal skills for damage (I'd say Sever Artery, Gash, and Galrath Slash for sword or Dismember, Penetrating Blow and Executioner's Strike for Axe), Charm Animal for a companion (even more damage, I say) and Ferocious Strike {E} for free energy and maybe Feral Lunge for bleeding, and with all that free energy, I'm sure you could afford a simple Power Attack every once and a while, and the build would look pretty damned good.

Wow, I just kinda went off on a tangent and pulled that out of my ass...

But yeah, the Warrior/Ranger is still a viable combination.

12 (11+1) Axe Mastery
12 (10+2) Strength
10 Beast Mastery

1. Tigers Fury
2. Penetrating Blow
3. Dismember
4. Executioner's Strike
5. Power Attack
6. Feral Lunge
7. Ferocious Strike {E}
8. Charm Animal

Required equipment: Zealous Axe Haft

Acan Vishnu · Jun 16, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Is Ferocious Strike elite? its not listed as such on the guru skill list

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/459-ferocious-strike

edit:looked further, there is a comment tagged to it with someone saying it is elite

Stauf · Jun 16, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Err... I'm pretty sure it's not elite seeing as I got it from a quest and didn't capture it.

Jun 16, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#1
CJM Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	Warrior/Ranger? Hey everyone, I was wondering how a warrior/ranger would do as a proffesion combo. I've heard that it is a very bad idea to do, although I've heard that it's a very good combo to play as far as damage goes. I was hoping I could get some information about this combo from more experienced players, as well as other combos with a ranger. If you think I should stick with that, then tell me why. If you think I should change, tell me what proffesions to do and why. (I would prefer a ranger somewhere in there) Thanks

Jun 16, 2005, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#2
jasonrunion Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Knights Of Chaos Profession: W/Mo	I think it is a great combo because if you have a ranger for 2nd u can use troll uguent. You will be unstoppable did i mention you can also have a pet

Jun 16, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38	#3
wgregory87 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Vancouver Guild: TYSN Profession: Mo/W	It's not the greatest combo. Rather than troll ungent, monks have way better healing spells. Pets are next to useless and arrow skills aren't very useful for a warrior sine 90% of the time he'll be right beside all the enemies. Every class combination is viable, I just think that there are better ones than this. W/Mo - can smite and heal. W/E - can AoE and use armor spells. W/Me - can own casters. W/N - Can raise minion, cast curses, do anything good.

Jun 16, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42	#4
CJM Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005	All right, makes sence, although I think I would prefer to have a ranger somewhere... So if a warrior/ranger isn't good, what would be the best proffesion to do with a ranger?

Jun 16, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#5
jasonrunion Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Knights Of Chaos Profession: W/Mo	i would have to say either a ele/mon/or mes

Jun 16, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03	#7
Forefall Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Council of Tyria	Warrior/Ranger is a very viable option. It can be devastating, especially with poison attack on a cyclone axe. And beastmastery works excellent with a warrior. Most people on these forums don't know what they're talking about, save a few. Unfortunately, I'm probably one of the majority. I'd say if you want a warrior/ranger do it. It truly is a very viable option, both for PvE and PvP.

Jun 16, 2005, 05:02 AM // 05:02	#10
wgregory87 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Vancouver Guild: TYSN Profession: Mo/W	The fact most of you are forgetting is that ANY class combination fares well in PvE. W/R would be much less usefull in PvP. Actually near useless compared to what your second class could provide.

Jun 16, 2005, 01:28 PM // 13:28	#11
Celdor Nailo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/E	I'm a W/R 13. I picked ranger as my second profession because I wanted to travel and fight with an animal companion. I don't use any of the ranger skills except for troll ungent. One problem with traveling with a pet is that you need to use one skill spot for animal companion and if you want to be able to heal your pet then you need to use a slot for animal something (forget what it's called).

Jun 16, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27	#12
Lymix Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City Profession: W/R	I'm a lvl 20 W/R and have just recently started booting up Wilderness Survival skills. I agree with Drachton that Troll Unguent is a great way to keep health up for a tank. Apply Poison is also very effective for a damage dealing warrior, especially in conjunction with an attack like Hundred Blades, Cyclone Axe or Crude Swing which strikes multiple enemies. Pets? Besides always seeming to get in my (and every one else's) way, in order for them to become effective you'll have to put a lot of attribute points into Beast Mastery, which to me seems like a mismanagement of attribute points for a Ranger secondary. Since the bulk of your attribute points will be tied up in Warrior skills, remaining points spent in Wilderness Survival are going to be of much more value than Beast Mastery IMO. While a W/R combo may not be one of the best secondary choices it can be effective with some practice.

Jun 16, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43	#14
Acan Vishnu Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Mo/N	Another nice bonus for going w/r is that they have some pretty nice stances... Dryder's Defense, Serpents Quickness, Tiger's Fury, etc... Can't really list the Expertise ones, unless you go R/W, which is also a viable combo. I'd probably go one or the other though, wouldn't want to diversify too much... Strength, Weapon Skill, then a Ranger line.. Probably wouldn't want to stretch it too much farther, although for PvE you'd probably be fine going with four attribute lines, might be too much for a PvP build though.. might just keep Strength a little lower, as you might not get as much benefit from it. One thing I've really wanted to try is Ferocious Strike melee build, nice damage, gain a bit of energy and even get the adrenaline from the hit. Really tempted to play a beastmaster like that

Jun 16, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#15
Khift Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO] Profession: P/	Tiger's Fury alone seems like a good enough reason to put points into Beast Mastery. With a Zealous sword hilt or axe haft (I wouldn't think Hammer would work quite as well) and 10 points in Beast Mastery (Very easy to get -- 10 in Strength/Tactics, 11 in Swords/Axe, and 10 in a third skill. Boost Strength/Tactics up to 12 with a helmet and a minor rune and Swords/Axe up to 12 with a minor rune) you could keep Tiger's Fury up almost indefinitely. Then, throw in some adrenal skills for damage (I'd say Sever Artery, Gash, and Galrath Slash for sword or Dismember, Penetrating Blow and Executioner's Strike for Axe), Charm Animal for a companion (even more damage, I say) and Ferocious Strike {E} for free energy and maybe Feral Lunge for bleeding, and with all that free energy, I'm sure you could afford a simple Power Attack every once and a while, and the build would look pretty damned good. Wow, I just kinda went off on a tangent and pulled that out of my ass... But yeah, the Warrior/Ranger is still a viable combination. 12 (11+1) Axe Mastery 12 (10+2) Strength 10 Beast Mastery 1. Tigers Fury 2. Penetrating Blow 3. Dismember 4. Executioner's Strike 5. Power Attack 6. Feral Lunge 7. Ferocious Strike {E} 8. Charm Animal Required equipment: Zealous Axe Haft

Jun 16, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#16
Acan Vishnu Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Mo/N	Is Ferocious Strike elite? its not listed as such on the guru skill list http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/459-ferocious-strike edit:looked further, there is a comment tagged to it with someone saying it is elite

Jun 16, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40	#17
Stauf Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Do Not Pass Go Profession: R/Me	Err... I'm pretty sure it's not elite seeing as I got it from a quest and didn't capture it.